Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Phil Simms says Eli Manning isn't one of the NFL's elite

How bad are things for Eli Manning.  Bad enough that former New York Giants quarterback Phil Simms would actually demote Manning from the ranks of the elite.

Simms didn't hold back anything when he was asked about the two-time Super Bowl MVP winner on "NFL Monday Quarterback" on CBS Sports Network.

"No, he's not one of the elites.  Because when I hear the word "elite," I'm thinking about guys that can make unbelievable plays on the field by themselves," said Simms — a Super Bowl MVP himself.

"There are very few quarterbacks in that category.  Yes, Eli has been a tremendous team player.  he has been MVP of the Super Bowl twice.  I know that. But the way I look at it, the answer is no."



The once beleaguered Manning got himself into tossed into the comparisons with the NFL's best quarterbacks after he said he saw himself as an elite quarterback when asked prior to the 2011 season.  He backed it up by leading  the Giants to a second Lombardi Trophy in five years.

Manning started this season where he left off in February — and was an early MVP candidate— but a three game slump, where he has failed to throw a touchdown pass, has sparked the debates about whether his skills or a couple of lucky catches made him a winner.

One Hall of Fame quarterback has come to Manning's defense.

"You can't spell elite without Eli.  The pressure situations that Eli has thrived in over his short career in my mind make him an elite quarterback," said former San Diego Charger Dan Fouts, who also appeared on the show. " All you have to do is look back at his two Super Bowl wins and the way he beat the Patriots."

While Manning takes a few days off from throwing during the Giants bye week, the debate will rage over whether or not his arm is tired.  Exhausted or not, he still has three fourth-quarter comebacks this season.

"I have to give him a nod and say Eli is elite," added Fouts.

16 comments:

  1. WOW, have a few bad games and everyone turns on you. Simms is just jealous that Eli is about to brake his team record. Eli might be playing hurt and is not disclosing anything.Same old story, when you're winning everyone loves you, soon as you lose everyone begins to turn on you.

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    1. I am a diehard Patriots fan, but I have to agree with you. Remember when Eli was surgint this season? Everybody loved him, and then he fails in two games and he becomes the national idiot. NFL critics never fail to amuse me -_-

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    2. That is the problem, you have a few bad games and they forget all the good you have done. I am not surprised that there is no loyalty in sports which is why I wasn't upset at lebron deciding his own fate.

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  2. well Phil Simms.I would say all the Mannings are Elite. At least Archie knows how to pass down that gene. Where is your kid?

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  3. He is NOT elite. He his lucky. Big difference.

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  4. I'm a die hard GIANT"S FAN

    Phil Simms was just OK as a quarterback , he himself was nothing to write home about , stats just ok , didn't have a big arm , actually Jeff Rutledge on the side lines was more exciting when he got his chance !!!
    Simms had his best game when he was in the SuperBowl and that was IT ....never before and never after
    He really should be thankful he's on TV commentating today.

    Leave those type of questions to the likes of Marino's , Young's , Warner's, Bradshaw's, Aikman's

    Simms sits with the Esiason,Gannon,Dilfer, Mcnabb's, and Ron Jaworski....all of these were just OK !!!

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    1. actually meant to say (Jeff Hostetler)

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  5. Eli has thrown as many TDs as Simms ALREADY. Manning's completion to interception ratio is better than Simms, his completion percentage is better, his QB rating is better, and he's been the MVP in two Superbowls in 9 seasons. Where does that put you Phil? Look at the defensive players you had. Terry Bradshaw never would have got a sniff of the Hall of Fame without perhaps the greatest roster of all time. The only QB with worse performance stats in the Hall is Joe Namath. He got in for simply claiming a prediction. His stats are Trent Dilfer like. Maybe Trent should have predicted an upset too.

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  6. You can say what you want, but Eli is a winner. The numbers don't lie. Eli has 2 super bowl wins. His team has beaten the best the NFL has to offer. Elite? Like it or not, YES, he gets the nod from me.

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  7. Simms is a bonehead. I remember all too well the 'wish I had that back' moments he had - vs. Eagles down 21-0 in 3 minutes due to poor decision making

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  8. What a bunch of friggin idiots. He wins 2 super bowls, which is more that Peyton has, and you guys are complaining because you have a weak offensive pass blocking line, and receivers that drop the ball. It ain't Eli that has the issue dummies. Pathetic.

    As for Simms, he never was an elite quarterback, and he is even a worse color analyst. He should have been fired a long time ago.

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  9. phil,stop whining and show a little loyalty to the organization that stuck with you and a little less jealousy...eli has two rings for winning the big one. You are great...he's greater

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  10. Phil you're just about as good at commentating as you were at qb. Mediocre and that's it. Eli's got you beat handsdown so close your yap.

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